How Sad is that?

Well I'm speachless, after the recent spate of suicides in Wales, you'd think it would be the last thing any teenager or younger person would want to inflict on their families and themselves.

Having said that, what have youngsters got to do around here?? What activities are open to them?? What options do they have to go further in life?? What insentives do they have to pull their socks up, when everyone is so down on them, and tbh failing them before they've set out in life!!

Growing up years ago, I can tell you now I was a free-er teenager/younger person, we never had gang problems, the fear of other "groups", a lack of things to do or places to go.

Today they have so many restriction from their parents to other adults, from other peer groups, from each other, from community groups, a lack of activities for them to get involved in, no huge range of clubs/interest groups for them to attend.

I think on a whole society along with our Government is failing everyone now a days, communities don't pull together and no one has the cash to set up groups to help these souls.

Most areas in Cardiff now have Youth Workers on the streets getting youngsters into clubs/sports/interest groups, mingling with them, steering them away from crime, drugs and ultimately a life of depression and dependency or life on the streets, hanging about doing nothing.

Where are our Youth Workers, helping Our Teens!!??

Welcome Cymru Doris
I agree that was not a polite welcome. Especially that you were stating fact and had just overheard the conversation.
Please post,
This forum is not a patch on what it used to be and the discussions need to reflect all sides of the community.
The more posters - good and bad the better in my opinion.

As the original poster was only commenting on a statment heard in town, what is the problem? Welcome to the site cymrudoris :-)

I think suicide is an awful thing but dying without having lived is worse so if people kill themselves but have had a good time then it isn't as bad as when people kill themselves and they've had a horrible time, in short it's probably the fault of the council.

CymruDoris, Welcome to Aberdare Toe Theline. LOL!!.I would't be too upset over Gwyneira's freezing warm welcome, A.O.L. reminds me of Fawlty Towers
("I mentioned the war, but I think I got away with it!").You are quite entitled to your opinion on here as long as you get permission first.! LMAO!!
A.T.B Regards, Cymylog Jones.

Yes, well Toots, you are a classic example of what i was trying to point out, but obviously the humour and sentiment went over the top of your head. I thought that it was funny how people misinterperate what you write about, just like you have done, and Gwyneira did at the start. It reminded me of a Fawlty Towers farce, I was in no way critical of Lewis or Aberare/O.L,but laughing at the inability of some of the posters to comprehend.So please don't dive headlong in your haste to have a go at me, and not very subtly infer that i am surplus to requirements, instead, read the damned post a few times before forming an opinion.

Toots, your reply proves my point.

of course suicide is not to be joked at, i was pointing out that it was laughable that a forum member could tell another one what to write about and if he didn't like it than don't post hence "toeing the Aberdare line"

I haven’t had time to post lately for reasons of my own, rain and otherwise. I wasn’t going to post again, with the snide remarks that have been put on here lately, but I must say this before I leave.
Eiragwyn was wrong to state what she did, I agree, and I’m sure she regrets saying it. I’m sure an apology would be in order to the person concerned.
She is not a criminal, but probably feels like one now.
We are not all word perfect to try and express ourselves.
Your Posting
Reply by onevoice666 on September 8, 2008 - 4:26pm
Welcome Cymrudoris, Not a
Welcome Cymrudoris, Not a nice welcome at all, but one I'm coming to expect.
As I ddraenen states, "Eiragwyn doesn't seem to want to hear any of the nasty things in life. Maybe she lives in a cotton wool world where everything is sweetness and light and you never get hurt when you fall down."
The problem is its not just this poster but quite a few other that live in the world of "fluffy clouds".

Onevoice and Y ddraenen It shows you only read the posts you want to read, If you had taken the time to read her earlier posts.
If she is to proud to say it, I’ll say it for her they lost a daughter through Muscular Dystrophy. I don’t think you can tell her or anyone else about living on a fluffy cloud, and afraid of getting hurt. you want to remove those halo’s off your heads and read how the other half live.
Haven’t you got the guts to name the others who live on a fluffy cloud
She did say please. if you read it rightly, although that wasn’t mentioned at all on here.
If you want to know, have I seen heartbreak, yes more in one day than I hope you will never see in your life time, and the anniversary is next month and personal tragedies so before you preach again look home.
Maybe there should have been a separate forum for humour, for those with a sense of it, it’s certainly lacking on here at the moment.
If you wish to ask to have this post removed go ahead I won’t object, you must be one of Gods chosen few.
I’m surprised at your remarks D just who are you referring to with that Fawlty Towers remark and can’t comprehend if the army remark was aimed at me just say it, or are you hiding behind double meaning words again.
Its no wonder the site is lacking in posters with remarks like those.
If you wish to have a go at me go ahead, but don’t forget I can fire a broad side as well.

This was sent to me recently and the meaning is very true.

7%

A holy man was having a conversation with the Lord one day and said, I would like to know what Heaven and Hell are like.'
The Lord opened one of the doors and the holy man looked in. In the Middle of the room was a large round table. In the middle of the table was a large pot of stew, which smelled delicious and made the holy man's mouth water. The people sitting around the table were thin and sickly.
They appeared to be famished. They were holding spoons with very long handles that were strapped to their arms and each found it possible to reach into the pot of Stew and take a spoonful. However, because the handle was longer than their arms, they could not get the spoons back into their mouths. The holy man shuddered at the sight of their misery and suffering.
The Lord said, 'You have seen Hell.'
They went to the next room and opened the door. It was exactly the same as the first one. There was the large round table with the large pot of stew which made the holy man's mouth water. The people were equipped with the same long-handled spoons, but here the people were well nourished and plump, laughing and talking. The holy man said, 'I don't understand.'
It is simple,' said the Lord. 'It requires but one skill. You see, they have learned to feed each other, while the greedy think only of themselves.'

Its estimated 93% won't forward this. If you are one of the 7% who will, forward this with the title '7%'.
Remember that I will always share my spoon with you.

Goodbye

To all

Off course i will apologize if needs be but they were my thoughts at the time
September 6 th which incidentally was my birthday .Could it have been the wine
I have always felt free to speak my mind have stood up all my life against injustice never slow to speak. Having lived way over my alloted span of life i can assure everyone that I do not live on a fluffy white cloud and now full well there are many pitfalls in life .
I enjoy being part of Aoland have supported many causes and get on with most people. Have been to Greenpeace and visited Greenham Common all this seems along time ago.
I have fought many a good fight,and apologize to all especially my friends who played our lighthearted games,Very rarely enter into political matters
My fluffy white cloud disapeared many years ago when my daughter had M.S
Acceptance of this dreadful illness tok many years
After about 14 years when her father visited almost dailyshe sadly died,he has now since we came back from holidays been diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. Life is a bitch as the saying goes
Must also point out that I now that Eiragwyn is not correct grammar in Welsh
but it was the name of a dear cat
Lets all go back to where we were.Come on Beacon Girl where is the next game
Nonrev what about the trip down the river, Come on all give me strength to get through the next few months.

AMERICAN iNDIAN PRAYER

Grant that I may not criticise my neighbour until I have walked a mile in his moccasins

If I have offended anyone with my posting. If I haven,t welcomed anyone I am sorry

I don't think there is need to apologise Eiragwyn as I think your first posting was taken the wrong way by so many other posters.

They criticised you for posting your feelings while at the same time saying that everyone is entitled to post theirs, A bit contradictory I thought.

I could understand where you were coming from with your initial posting and I was supprised to see so many others taking offence with it.

Keep posting dear, Opinions are called for on here and you are entitled to yours as well as anyone else.

Have a nice day.

Cymro.

Everyone, has a right to their opinion, and if you voice your opinion then surely it's not wrong for those who don't agree to voice theirs as well.I cannot help thinking that if certain people, and i include myself amongst them, had written as terse a repy to a newbie, then all hell would have broken loose

Nonrev,I respect you and your right to your opinions, but your remarks are out of order, if i had anything to say to you it would be straight.

Please can we forgive and forget. Turn the other cheek or whatever.
I don,t really remember being welcomed to AOL.the first time I posted but have always enjoyed posting This subject seems to have had more replies apart from our games
We are all different like different things and have varied points of view .I have said sorry what is the next penance.

Anyway its a lovely day the mountains and sky are so beautiful I have painted a back wall and am now working on a story of my family. Our chapel was demolished and the remains in the graveyard are now in a small memorial garden on the same site This project has taken so long. My Great Granfather who died of Cholera was buried there in 1866. 4 young children who died in infancy are there followed by their mother much later. We are holding an out door service there on Friday. It is Libanus in Treherbert.

If anyway is interesred I have access to census records and would look anything up for you. Could this be my penance (No it would be enjoyment)

Non rev please stay. I will hold a silence for you on the anniversary of the event you mentioned

Nonrevv i didn't say there were more or others on here, i said that toots was a classic example of how some people read entirely the wrong meaning into the written word, nothing like what was intended.Now i am drawing a line under this subject. As Beacon Girl wisely stated , least said soonest mended, and that should apply to us all

I did try to reply yesterday but for some reason I could get no further than the preview, it’s probably this computer which I’m no wizard at.

I’m sure you are all great people at heart and with good intensions, keep talking to each other, If I seemed abrupt I’m not, only when something seems wrong. and try to right it.
I'll drop the sunject by all means, I may be ignorant with words, but try not to be with people. If I offended you I apologise.

I shall have to leave here for awhile The old eyes are not what they used to be.
I have to rest them, they wont operate until the other problem I have is cleared up. keep on talking I'll be back as soon as I can.

Nonrev

We will miss you on here.
Sorry to hear about your eye problem hope it gets sorted out for you soon .

Take Care hope to hear from you soon.
Beacon Girl