New Welsh wind farm to provide secure, home-grown energy
“This project in South Wales will generate vast amounts of home-grown renewable electricity and provide a significant benefits package for the local community.”
(Charles Hendry)
Energy Minister Charles Hendry today granted consent to Vattenfall for the Pen Y Cymoedd project, a 299MW wind farm between Neath and Aberdare in South Wales.
Made up of 76 turbines, it would have the highest generating capacity of any onshore wind farm in England and Wales. The developer predicts that it will generate enough electricity to power the equivalent of up to 206,000 homes a year.
The developer has also pledged to a community benefits package potentially worth more than £55m over the lifetime of the development, including £3m for habitat management and £6,000 a year per megawatt to a Community Trust Fund.
Charles Hendry said:
“Onshore wind plays an important role in enhancing our energy security. It is the cheapest form of renewable energy and reduces our reliance on foreign fuel.
“This project in South Wales will generate vast amounts of home-grown renewable electricity and provide a significant benefits package for the local community.”
Neither of the relevant local authorities objected to the wind farm subject to conditions, covering such issues as construction, noise, archaeology, habitat management and hydrology, being included in any planning permission granted. In response to concerns about possible effects on mining, conditions have been included to safeguard the future extraction of coal from under the site of the wind farm. The requested conditions are attached to the deemed planning permission.
The onshore wind farm would be within an area identified as being suitable for large scale wind farm development by the Welsh Government, under Technical Advice Note 8 (TAN 8).
http://wales.gov.uk/desh/publications/planning/technicaladvicenotes/tan8...
https://www.og.decc.gov.uk/EIP/pages/projects/PenConsent.pdf
https://www.og.decc.gov.uk/EIP/pages/projects/PenDecision.pdf
https://www.og.decc.gov.uk/EIP/pages/projects/PenLSE.pdf
http://wales.gov.uk/docs/desh/publications/050701planningtan8map1en.pdf
Being this affects my part
Being this affects my part of the woods, the first meeting was held and I knew nothing about it.
On the second meeting where we could voice our opinion, It would not have made a h'penny of difference, in my mind it was already done and dusted regardless of the concerns of the villagers.
I am all for green energy but what replies we had to our questions were a bit debatable !!
Q1.Would it bring jobs to the villages/valley
A1.Yes of course we will employ local people.
????? Who in my village knows how to build a wind turbine?
Q2. Would it give the people of the villages/ valley cheaper electricity.
A2. It will be beneficial.
????? No definate answer was given to whether my village would receive cheaper electricity
There were lots of other questions I can't remember now as this meeting was about 18 months ago.
I do remember this young kid showing me where the turbines were going to be located, so i pointed out that i would be able to see one when sitting out my garden at night. Her reply was ... you will not see it as it will be hidden by the forestry trees. I asked her when was she in the area last, the forestry trees had been chopped down years before. WTF like !! It really grips my s***
This is the case with all
This is the case with all such big business planning decisions, that it's already been passed and it's only a matter of going through the motions of seeming to allow the public its say, when in fact the business sector knows that the green light will be given.
Myself, I'm dubious about wind farms and other alternative energy sources, but I support nuclear, because I can't see what alternative we have. In fact, I favour nuclear above all the others, including wind farms, for the simple reason that wind energy is unreliable. This was proven two years back during a bitterly cold spell when we needed it the most, and there was no wind!
Anyway, I don't believe all this guff about wind energy coming from the mouths of Charles Hendry and his ilk. In fact, they spout more wind than any that's likely to turn the blades of these windmills.
What though will the benefits to the local community be? This is another little ploy so beloved by these supporters of wind farms. Are we going to benefit in the same way that the coal industry gave us great wealth in the past?
I mean that tongue in cheek of course, because not many miners in South Wales lived the life of Reilly on their meagre wages. The wealth was taken out of Wales, or only served the lifestyles of a few super-rich coal masters.
I suspect the same will happen with these wind farms. Also, some countries where they are quite predominant, like Germany, are even now questioning their efficiency, as they do tend to break down quite a lot, as well as the aforementioned unreliablity.
I wouldn't be surprised if, in the future, they'll be seen as just a white elephant, or another get-rich-quick scheme for a few businessmen who saw an opportunity to rip off gullible politicians. It won't be the first time that has happened.
about as much use as a giro
about as much use as a giro in cocomans pocket
The pits, winding gears and
The pits, winding gears and spoil tips are gone, the valleys are getting greener and prettier then they decide to dump large piece of useless scrap iron on the hills to spoil the view.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ea
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/9253375/Huge-windfarm-...
There are only two types of
There are only two types of person who think on-shore wind farms are a good idea:
1. Those that will profit directly… whether in financial terms or other gains such as politicians ticking boxes.
2. Those who are blissfully ignorant of the true facts.
The reason developers can get away with building wind farms such as Pen-y-Cymoed, isn’t solely down to collusion behind closed doors among big business and the government… what REALLY plays into the hands of these people is the general apathy and lack of knowledge on the subject by the public at large.
In my own personal experience... speaking to friends, neighbours, colleagues and passers-by, the majority of 'Joe Public' actually believe all the smoke and mirrored clap trap that’s spouted about these so called ‘environmentally friendly’ installations.
The final bitter pill, the government giving their approval to such a planning application, should really come as no surprise whatsoever… something’s never change; and as it was in the days of heavy industry so it remains, the utter contempt and ignorance towards these local communities by the powers that be continues (at all levels)!!!
Perhaps in years to come, when every hill and mountain around South Wales becomes festooned in these redundant follies, the penny may eventually drop…. naturally by then it will be a little too late.
Madness complete and utter!!!
http://www.reuk.co.uk/Severn-
http://www.reuk.co.uk/Severn-Barrage-Tidal-Power.htm
Now here's a little item that's worth exploring, and may answer some of the questions about the wind farms issue that seems to have stirred up a hornets' nest of controversy.
Who exactly is going to benefit from the wind farms, when such a project as the Severn Barrage could provide far more than we'll get from those said wind farms?
£365 million for a blight on the countryside? Somebody, somewhere stands to make a nice little earner from this, and it won't be the people who have to live with them.
The above link shows tried and tested technology that would provide more power and be more reliable than the wind farm fraternity would have us believe.
Talks over wind farm plans
Talks over wind farm plans sought after project agreed
Urgent talks are being sought with the developer behind the biggest onshore wind farm in England and Wales which is to be built between Neath and Aberdare.
Energy Minister Charles Hendry this week approved the 76-turbine Pen y Cymoedd project, which is expected to cost £300 million.
When the plans were originally put forward they were said to include turbines 145 metres high — three times the size of Nelson’s Column.
Full story on link
http://www.wind-watch.org/news/2012/05/10/talks-over-wind-farm-plans-sou...
I see some of these 'local
I see some of these 'local jobs' are already advertised on the Vattenfall AB website. Project managers are required in Hexham and London.
What is wrong with people
What is wrong with people making a profit out of it? The land is there to be raped and exploited, wind-farms, opencast or any other way, if it makes money then do it.
I don't care about the environment, I don't care about the planet in years to come. Wind, hydro, coal, gas, or nuclear it's all the same to me, if someone can make money out of it, then good luck to them. Some people are so stupid, green this, clean that, global warming. it's all rubbish. Look back at the industrial revolution, the smoke the grime the black slag tips in the coal mining areas. do you really think that the people who made money in those days care about us today? As I have said many times before "Greed is Good" All I want is money in my bank as much and as fast as possible.
People had to look after themselves years ago, we have to look after ourselves now, and in years to come people will have to do the same. If they can't then tough! I'm alright Jack!
You have to speak polish to
You have to speak polish to get a job up there, only english speaking jobs are for security guards.
Hi I am working for Siemens
Hi
I am working for Siemens as an Offshore Traveling Wind Turbine Technician as was wondering when will the jobs be starting and who should i contact to enquire? I have all the qualifications need for it?
try cocoman...he claims to
try cocoman...he claims to employ suckers !
I would rather see a million
I would rather see a million wind farms than have the atrocities of a nuclear power station, many many years ago I lived near one in Gloucester. It may have been closed for 15-20 years but last time I past it still looked like the village of the dammed. Nothing growing or ever will, at least had I still lived there and it had gone up I would have gone to my maker instantly. Here if it had gone I would have just breathed in the cancerous toxic dust and our children/grandchildren, great grandchildren would be born, many disabled like those in the Ukraine disaster
Sorry I cant conform to the way of thinking wind farms are unsightly, actually passing them on the way to Neath I think they give a magical look to the countryside.
Sod the green issues I'm fed up of anything new or safe starting up in our Valleys and we have the Green Brigade up in arms. and on the March. DO THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH WALES WANT WORK. Many do and would choose to work and live near wind farms.
We are a poor country work brings in jobs to build and aftercare creates a little more work. Employment means less idle hands to get in trouble.
Don't think I'm against all green issues, far from it, recycle etc is a marvelous thing, and at one point I many green ideas myself but now all I see in the green brigade are a load of people looking to find an excuse to protest.
I can see this happening in
I can see this happening in the cotswolds???
Here's your answer Russell,
Here's your answer Russell, planning permission refused for a single 25m high turbine.
http://www.wiltsglosstandard.co.uk/news/9595808.Education_call_over_Cots...
According the the article there are just seven wind turbines in the whole of the Cotswold catchment.
But of course, it's David
But of course, it's David Cameron's stamping ground isn't it? Never mind though, you bloody Welsh have put up with all the s**t we've thrown at you in the past, so what's a few windmills or an opencast site to you, eh? You should be grateful we're giving you this golden opportunity for some work.
http://www.jrf.org.uk/media-c
http://www.jrf.org.uk/media-centre/urgent-action-needed-wind-farm-develo...
Watch out the next nuclear
Watch out the next nuclear power station is coming to RCT, they will flood the valley for water and build a power station at Abercynon.
Russel, can you honestly
Russel, can you honestly think of a more fitting end?...
Nice boating lake for the
Nice boating lake for the hoi polloy from merthyr and rhondda to dip their dirty feet into and cheap electric for the english. MMMM Yes